5ª Fecha sD vs G'Like TS

[arx]

Y a mi que, que sea Glad?

Ahts<3

[MoCHiLa]

No tenía idea de la situación de c@m. De todos modos, me da lo mismo que juegue o no en esta liga, la verdad es que no tengo antecedentes para saber si usó cheats o no. Sin embargo, y salvo que me haya perdido de algo, creo que la resolución final de ftwgl es banear a c@m por uso de cheats, tener múltiples cuentas y por trolling en general, como se aprecia en el siguiente mensaje:

:21.c@m will be Banned for remainder of season, season 5 and season 6 for hacking in FTWGL. Also adding to c@m's ban were the fact he was account sharing. Also accessing other players accounts. His ban will be reviewed at the end of season 6.
Upon the ban being lifted he will be subject to league probation and be required to submit a demo for every match played.

demo can be found here: http://ngwgaming.com/camvsdt.dm_68

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138.89.60.207
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141.153.239.92
70.166.28.239
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Repito, quizás no es la última información, porque hay varios post de apelación por parte de c@m o sus defensores.

Saludos.

[Ripol]

Repito, quizás no es la última información, porque hay varios post de apelación por parte de c@m o sus defensores.

En efecto, no es la ultima informacion Mochi... pero igual pondrias el link de donde sacaste eso?

Esta es la ultima informacion:

Message :

Friday April 8th, 2011:
:21.c@m will not be banned. His ban was erroneous, lacking evidence. FTW extends it's apologies for this error.
Link: http://www.ftwgl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252&page=2&highlight=remainder

[Ripol]

Y a mi que, que sea Glad?

Ahts<3

No tanto que sea Glad, sino que es alguien con cierta antiguedad... No es lo mismo que otro posteando (en teoria)
Estas medio amargo ultimamente mati, pasa algo? Te pareces a kennie a veces

[MoCHiLa]

El post que cité es anterior a ese. Sin embargo, revisando los cientos de posts que hay, veo algunos de admins como Kenny que el día 9 de Abril, por ejemplo, seguían sosteniendo el ban de c@m. De todos modos tu debes saber mejor, ya que está en tú clan.

De todos modos por mi no hay problema, sólo me metí al foro y ese fue el último comentario que encontré.

De hecho, seguí leyendo mientras poseaba esto y encontré el último mensaje (supongo) en donde se explica que el ban fue apresurado por lo que es revertido (o sea, c@m NO ESTA BANEADO):

After discussing it with the other admins, and reviewing the demo myself, we've concluded we were in error in banning c@m.

Let me explain the reason for the ban initially.

We received several uncertain F1's, from people on the review team who thought it was fishy. We waited to get more input from some of the more experienced reviewers. I wouldn't mention names if they hadn't been mentioned already.

Sephy reviewed the demo, and thought there wasn't much there, with the exception of one pretty blatant instance (where c@m shoots the corner of the wall). Sephy considered that enough to F1 because he didn't know that you could hit someone through the wall.

So we banned c@m.

However, after sephy found out c@m had a plausible reason for this (being able to shoot the guy on the other side through the wall). He tested it for himself, and was no longer comfortable supporting the ban.

I reviewed the demo this afternoon several times. I myself had some impressions that influenced my going along with sephy's decision initially:

1) I thought the game was a close one, that c@m was cracking under the pressure.
2) I thought dt played a stronger game then they did.
3) I thought c@m had a strong game that caused him to be put under suspicion.

I was wrong on all 3.

1) The game wasn't close at all, c@m had no motivation, incentive, or NEED to hack.
2) dt played poorly and predictably round after round. Holding pillars with 1 sr8 multiple times, always trying to hold the same areas. They were strongly outplayed and outgunned by 21.
3) c@m played like crap. He missed shots he should have made, left his team in bad situations frequently, costing them several rounds. Half his kills were in failed clutches that shouldn't have been happening in the first place because he was screwing around. He spends most of his time goofing off, attempting silly sr8 shots (which he frequently whiffs), knife kills, and poorly placed nades.

The ban will be reversed, 21 is still in the playoffs. We (the staff) have learned several things from this.

1) Public discussion and debate by people who are either unwilling to watch a demo, or unqualified to do so...will not be tolerated. Threads opened to discuss whether someone hacks will be harshly moderated, and possible forum suspensions will be dealt to those who try to stir up this kind of destructive discussion.

2) Admins will be more thorough about demo review in the future, with a tighter circle being kept during the review period. We'll be transparent about it, but only after we've finished making our decision.

I feel badly about how this was handled, but I'm confident (as are the rest of the admins) that we don't have evidence to convict c@m, and leaving him banned would be wrong.

[CobraBR]

C@M é cheater

Nós do pretorian+ lamentamos a participação desse player nesse campeonato.

O pretorian+ assim como demais times brasileiros não disputarão mais a FTW pois provamos que o c@m usa cheat através de demos.. deram a demo como suja la na FTW e depois voltaram atrás na decisão..

Infelizmente teremos portanto um cheater entre nossos jogos... espero que os admins da liga possam reverter enquanto é tempo essa situação.

Att

Pretorian+

[cr4nk]

Aca creo que hay bastante informacion para poder ver que es wallero... tampoco se de cuanto tiempo es
pero de verdad es medio descarado..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5d0ZtPA ... re=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRMdb8VI_EY

[CobraBR]

Aca creo que hay bastante informacion para poder ver que es wallero... tampoco se de cuanto tiempo es
pero de verdad es medio descarado..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5d0ZtPA ... re=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRMdb8VI_EY

Need more? come on... cheater + cheater + cheater

[Ripol]

jaja crank, y si miras la demo que subimos y marcas los momentos mejor?

cobra, por que você não olha a demo e vê a que horas ele esta cheateando?

[CobraBR]

rIPOL.. com todo o respeito, eu não vou entrar na discussão se o c@m é cheater ou não é, pois eu tenho certeza absoluta que ele é..

jogo urban terror desde 2002 e sei mto bem quando alguem usa cheat..

eu só lamento por vocês do SD e pela liga que terá esse player para destruir a imagem do campeonato...

infelizmente.. só fico na torcida que ele seja inabilitado de jogar.. senão é tentar ganhar do time + o cheater junto , paciencia

(Edit: Traduccion de Arexo:
Ripol, con todo respeto, no voy a entrar en la discusión de si c@m es cheater o no, ya que tengo absoluta certeza que sí lo es.

Juego al Urban terror desde el 2002 y sé muy bien cuando alguien está usando cheat.

Me da lastima por ustedes (SD) y por la liga que permite que este jugador destruya la imagen de la misma...

Infelizmente, solo espero que cam sea inhabilitado. Sino, seria como intentar ganar contra un equipo + un cheater juntos, que paciencia..
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